Posts Tagged ‘Range’

postheadericon 10 Ways To Get Kicked Off The Range — If You’re Lucky

Everyone messes up at some time or another. Every gun owner will make a dumb mistake. The difference between a learning experience and a very big mistake is the ability to walk away with no one getting hurt.

While that sounds good in principle, range safety officers aren’t into putting up with anyone’s mistakes.

There’s a firing line. And the range safety officers monitor it closely to ensure no one is doing anything that could jeopardize themselves, other shooters, or the RSOs.

Everyone on the firing line is responsible for safety. If you see an unsafe practice, you need to bring it up to an RSO. If someone sees you doing something unsafe, he needs to bring it up to the RSO.

The RSO makes a determination, gives a recommendation, documents the incident, and ensures that the decision is complied with. If the RSO’s advice isn’t heeded, he has the authority to boot someone off the range.

Here’s 10 ways to get kicked off the range.

#10. Shoot at wildlife that wanders onto the range.

Animals can and have wandered onto live ranges. Just because they made a dumb mistake doesn’t mean you need to take advantage of it. There are conservation rules, state laws, endangered species watchlists, and all sorts of rules governing who can shoot what animal, where, and when.

If someone sees a deer randomly wander across the firing line and decides he’s going to take it out, he’ll likely be getting escorted off the range by the range safety officers. Depending upon the animal, the season, and the temperament of the wildlife conservation officers or Fish & Game Wardens, he may get out of the range with only a permanent ban.

If you see wildlife wander onto the range, you need to call it out and let the RSO know. On some ranges, that may mean hitting a range alarm or just simply letting an RSO know as soon as possible. Call it in. Save a life.

#9. Argue or brawl with other shooters.

If the guy next to you is a complete jerk, move over a lane or two. If the guy is a jerk and a danger to others — either by intimidating he’ll use physical violence or threatening another person — immediately get an RSO. He’ll be off that range faster than an empty case can hit the ground.

There is no room for macho bravado on the range. Save the displays of uncommon courage for the American Legion parade. When it comes to professionalism and safety, the range has to hold high standards for both.

#8. Failure to follow any of the four basic firearm safety rules.

Here they are so no one can claim ignorance:

  1. Treat every gun as if it is loaded.
  2. Don’t point a gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
  3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you intend to fire.
  4. Know what’s in front and directly behind your target.

Pretty easy, right? Well, the second an RSO sees you holding your finger on the trigger during times it’s evident you don’t intend to shoot, he’ll talk to you. If he sees it again, he’ll ask you to leave.

The four firearm safety rules are no joke. Disregard them at your own peril. Disregard them on the range and expect to get booted.

#7. Steal stuff from another guy’s bench

Reach over and snag somebody else’s cleaning brush? That’s a paddlin’.

It’s no big deal to ask someone to borrow a brush or some CLP. It is a big deal to take it without asking. Range safety officers and other range patreons all have the right to not have their stuff taken without permission. Doing so can land you in hot water.

The phrase, “it’s better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission” — doesn’t apply on the range.

#6. Go forward on the firing line while the line is ‘hot’.

When the RSO makes the determination that everyone is behind the firing line, he will declare the range ‘hot’ unless something specific causes him to stop. Seeing a person in front of the firing line is a reason for him to tell shooters to hold fire.

If a shooter decides he needs to go forward of the line while other shooters are firing, he needs to let an RSO know. If it’s an emergency, there is usually an alarm or bell that can be activated to shut down the range.

Deciding, on one’s own volition, to just spontaneously move forward on the line while shooters are firing is both dangerous and extremely stupid. An RSO will immediately shut down the range if another shooter doesn’t do it first… And then that person who moved forward of the line will be asked to leave.

#5. Have a loaded gun in your hand while there’s someone forward of the firing line.

Right alongside declaring a range ‘not hot’ (not safe for firing), the RSO will usually request everyone put down their guns. This is a precaution to ensure that if the RSO sees someone with a gun in his hand, he knows he’s not supposed to have it.

In some cases, if an RSO has repeatedly asked you to not have your gun in your hand while there are people forward of the firing line, he may ask you to leave.

#4. Take your sweet time forward of the firing line when the RSO tells you to hurry up.

As annoying as it is when others don’t respect your time, it’s equally as annoying when you don’t respect theirs. When the firing line is shut down so people can move forward to retrieve, mark, or replace their targets, this isn’t the time to dilly-dally. Move forward with a purpose. Make a single trip out to the line, do what you need to do, and move back to the line.

If you see a guy constantly holding up the line by not getting his tasks down, the RSO will probably try to move him along. If the shooter continues to be a nuisance and hold up the line, the RSO may ask him to come back to the range at a different time when it’s either less busy or the crowd is less anxious to continue their training.

#3. Shoot before the RSO declares the firing line to be ‘hot’.

If there’s someone out in front of the firing line retrieving a target or taking his sweet time marking his target, that’s the RSO’s problem — not yours. At no point in time is it okay to commence firing until the range safety officer declares the line is ‘hot’; i.e. it is safe to shoot.

Failing to adhere to this can result in immediate dismissal from the range — potentially on a permanent basis.

#2. Tell the range safety officer to get stuffed after he tells you to do something.

The range safety officer is someone appointed by range management to oversee the conduct of the people using the range and ensure that safe practices are being upheld. While there are RSOs who let their role go to their head, ultimately the time to debate their logic is not on the range.

The range is their domain.

If you disagree with a decision or stern suggestion, you can ask to speak with them off the range or speak to their management.

In about 9.9/10 cases, range management is probably going to back the RSO… So you better bring your case packed with evidence that you’re right, the RSO is wrong, and he made a bad call.

If you decide to make a scene about an RSO decision, you’re likely to get booted from the range.

#1. Point your gun at another person.

This is probably the fastest way to get booted off the range. If a range safety officer sees you blatantly flag another person with a gun — loaded or not — you’re subject to get tossed off the line.

Here’s the thing: people can and have flagged other range-goers. It’s wrong. It shouldn’t be tolerated — and it should always be addressed either directly or indirectly. We wrote a decent article detailing how to handle getting flagged it if the situation comes up.

OPTIONAL BONUS: Don’t pick up your brass.

While some ranges will pay somebody to pick up all the brass, there are plenty club or private ranges that require you to pick up your own brass. It’s not like a shooter’s mom wanders behind him, picking up every brass off the ground. Not only is it the right thing to do, you’re also keeping the range clear for the next guy.

If you practice on a range that doesn’t care, disregard. However, if you practice on a range where the rules specifically state you need to police your own brass and you don’t, you may just be in for a rude awakening next time the RSO catches you sneaking off with spent brass laying about.

Hopefully, this article served as a bit of an educational reminder that there’s plenty of ways to do dumb things and win dumb prizes at the range. Don’t do any of them. Your time is better spent practicing safely. If you see an unsafe practice, let the RSO know. And, as always, carry concealed everyday, everywhere — and practice often.

Concealed Nation

postheadericon [VIDEO] The​ ​Thompson​ ​Submachine​ ​Gun’s​ ​Rich​ ​History​ ​and​ ​Range Experience

Any movie or historical enthusiast will tell you the Thompson submachine gun is an American Icon with a rich history with military, law enforcement, civilians and gangsters. Developed in 1918, John Thompson sought to replace the bolt action rifle with an auto rifle chambered in .45 ACP. Over time and with some financial backing, the company Auto Ordnance was created.

Thompson, with the help of other designers, envisioned a hand held one man operated submachine gun. Once their vision was realised, the Thompson submachine gun became a reality and production began in 1921. Over time, the “Tommy Gun” made it’s way to the United States.

The Thompson was attractive due to it’s fast rate of fire. I was amazed at how fast the Thompson fired. Notice in the video above how quick a 30 round stick magazine was spent. However, the Thompson was criticized by some for it’s heavy weight, poor accuracy past 50 yards and it’s lack of penetration with the .45 ACP.

The Thompson submachine gun gained popularity with depression era gangsters and the law enforcement officers who pursued them. It quickly became known as the “Tommy Gun,” “Chicago Typewriter” or the “Annihilator.” As the years passed, the Thompson submachine gun became a famous part of American history.

I had an incredible opportunity to experience a “Tommy Gun” myself. I say “incredible” because Thompson submachine guns are rare, expensive and subject to NFA regulations which makes it near impossible for the average American to experience this rifle let alone own one. In today’s market, a decent condition Full Auto Thompson is priced between $ 20,000 – $ 25,000.
The Thompson’s also became famous with their high capacity drum magazines that the Hollywood film makers loved to feature. The rifle I fired was equipped with several 30 round stick mags which I found easy to reload and continuing to fire away.

The video above explains the features, controls, magazines and shooting impressions. To experience a Thompson, people may have to go to a range and rent this rifle for a hefty price as a range officer looks over their shoulder. I was fortunate enough to have a friend who owns this rifle and was more than happy to let me show it off. If you ever get the chance to experience a full auto Thompson submachine gun, by all means check it out. Spend a few extra bucks on ammo because the 30 round sticks sure go fast. American Icon and Hollywood favorite? No doubt. A blast at the range? Like an experience I will never forget.

Concealed Nation

postheadericon Two Gun Range Employees Return Fire After Detaining Two Armed Robbers and Taking Fire From Two More

HOUSTON, TEXAS — Two employees volunteered to stay behind at an indoor gun range after a rash of reported burglaries in the area. Around 12:30 a.m., surveillance cameras picked up two vehicles entering the parking lot. The employees watched as four people got out and attempted to break into one of the employee’s vehicles. That’s when they sprang into action.

According to ABC 13 News, the employees detained two of the robbers but the other two jumped into a car and drove off. During their escape, the two escaped suspects opened fire at the employees. The employees then returned fire with AR-15 rifles.

One of the suspects is believed to be detained after he showed up at a nearby hospital with a gunshot wound. Police investigators are still trying to link up the injury to the reported crime. As for the two that were detained, one of them is a prior convicted felon armed with a gun.

This was sort of an unexpected move. On one hand, it’s Texas. You’re allowed to defend yourself and you don’t have any duty to retreat from a threat. Four guys showed up to continue to harass, steal, and threaten gun range employees and probably customers as well.

At some point, enough is enough.

But that’s some dangerous ground to tread. Walking out onto the street, armed with AR-15s and facing down four potentially armed opponents is not one lick less than I’d expect from Texans but it’s not a road you should feel compelled to go down.

State laws will dictate a lot of nuance with how people are able to defend themselves and their property. Trying this can also get you killed.

That needs to be said.

If you walk out into a known hostile situation, visibly armed, there’s a lot of room for bad things to happen. Even worse, should you survive, the police may not see it your way. This case is still under review. We have yet to receive word whether or not a prosecutor wants to take this case on. Based upon the article, I’m going to guess not — but that’s still a lot more room to mess up one’s life than I’d think would be worth it.

That said, both employees had each other’s backs, managed to emerge from the situation unharmed, and even detained two bad guys and shot a third. These bad guys were a special breed of dumb to continually threaten gun range employees. The unfortunate part about reality is that it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put a round on target and I’d personally hate to see a law-abiding gun owner get hurt or killed because he wanted to go toe-to-toe with a numerically superior force under poor conditions.

Carry everyday and be safe. Honestly, if you see something like the aforementioned scenario playing out in front of you, take down some license plate numbers and call the police. If you have video surveillance cameras, get them right on the suspects. Defend yourself if attacked, obviously, but if you can stay out of the action, your chances of not getting shot go up dramatically.

Concealed Nation

postheadericon New From Springfield Armory: 1911 Range Officer Now Available In Stainless Steel

Ain’t she a beauty? Springfield’s Range Officer has received some upgrades with this new offering. Is this in your future? Springfield Armory® 1911 Range Officer® Now Available In Stainless Steel 9mm and .45 ACP Versions Feature Brushed Stainless Finish With … Continue reading
Concealed Nation

postheadericon Gun Range Has Ammo Vending Machine Installed, Some People Cry About It

There isn’t anything in the world you can do, that isn’t going to upset someone else. Some people just need all the attention, don’t they? A gun range in Pennsylvania, Beaver Valley Rifle & Pistol Club, recently had a vending machine … Continue reading
Concealed Nation