Posts Tagged ‘Teens’

postheadericon Questionable: Man Shoots Teens After They Stole From Store

PHOENIX, AZ — A pair of teens were shot by a man the pair assaulted in a shoplifting incident, reports ABC 15.

Now, the question is whether or not the man who shot them was reasonable in his use of force.

According to ABC 15:

According to the Phoenix Police Department, witnesses told officers that the teens had walked into a business in the area and took several items without paying.

Police say the teens were then confronted by a man in the parking lot who asked them to leave the stolen items. The teens then dropped the items and reportedly started to hit the man when they saw he was armed.

Police say during the assault the man fired his weapon, hitting both of the teens. Their injuries were not considered life-threatening.

Of course, the two 15-year-olds feel as though they were gravely abused.

“He was just screaming at us, ‘get down on the ground, get down on the ground!’ and we’re telling him, ‘we’re minors dude, you don’t have to shoot us.’ We even put the stuff on the ground,” said Michael Ward, one of the teens, according to ABC 15.

“That’s when he (Chris) started wrestling with the gun. I started coming in ‘cause I’m not gonna let my brother fight by himself, so I just started trying to get the gun away from him,” said Ward.

On one hand, there are witness claiming that these teens assaulted a man because they saw he was armed.

On the other hand, we have a at-least-somewhat-legitimate concern that the man violently overreacted to a shoplifting incident. God knows every Christmas season we see someone getting way too zealous in the attempt to stop petty crime and producing their firearm against Nancy who stole lip balm from the one remaining Eckerd on earth (sorry, they’re gone).

Was this man in genuine danger before the firearm was produced? Was there something this man could do to avoid the confrontation without sacrificing the safety of others? These questions are vital.

Whether or not the carrier was assaulted or whether the kids were defending themselves is almost immaterial to the point that needs to be made here: you use your defensive tool in the act of preserving life and liberty for you and others.

You don’t use it to perform a citizen’s arrest against Nancy.

Stay safe out there, folks, and be sure to keep your mind as sharp as your EDC knife.

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postheadericon Two Teens Attempt Armed Robbery, But Their Target Was An Off-Duty Police Officer

WEST VALLEY CITY, UTAH – Two teenagers tried to rob a man last tuesday, but they didn’t know who they were messing with at the time. However, they quickly found out.

The two teenagers accused of shooting a man during an attempted theft last week, didn’t know that their intended victim was an off-duty West Valley City officer, said police.

Local media reports;

The officer had been checking his mail at a communal mailbox at home near 3300 South and 1250 West just after 7 p.m. last Tuesday, according to a news release from West Valley police.

As he walked back home, two suspects with a handgun stopped him and allegedly attempted to rob him.

“During the course of this robbery, multiple rounds were fired both at the officer and by the officer,” the release stated. The suspects fled.

Moments after the officer had reported the shooting, two teens arrived in the local hospital with gunshot injuries. They had shown up at the hospital with the same vehicle described by the officer. The 17-year-old had been shot once and the 15-year-old had been shot twice.

The police officer was shot once in the foot and is recovering after leaving the hospital. The officer was not in uniform during the attempted robbery which indicates that the suspects didn’t know who they were getting involved with.

Concealed handguns protect people who cannot always rely on the police for protection, but when a victim is a concealed carrying police officer, there are usually one of the two outcomes: jail, or death.

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postheadericon Two Teens Were Looking For A Victim — What They Found Was A Concealed Carrier Instead

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN — Two teenagers staked out a secluded, quiet block in Milwaukee to find themselves someone to rob. They waited and when a 36-year-old man drove up, presumably to go home for the evening, they moved on him. Go figure, they picked a guy who was also a concealed carrier.

According to FOX 6 News, 17-year-old Deonte Thomas was shot dead at the scene and his buddy, 18 years of age, was also shot but survived and was taken into custody. Both of them attempted to violently rob a man in the dead of night and both received exactly what was coming to them.

“…They were looking for trouble and they clearly picked the wrong guy — because he defended himself,” Alderman Mark Borkowski said.

We highlighted the part of the alderman’s speech to Milwaukee residents because the other parts are clearly going to show how little the average non-firearm-carrying resident understands about the realities of violence.

“…Be aware of your surroundings, and if you are targeted for a robbery, police say it is usually always the right call to give the crooks what they want (because they will likely flee as soon as you hand it over).”

Perpetual victimhood. Be a victim. Don’t fight back, man. Give the two violent teenagers, with a combined IQ of 75, all of your possessions and they’ll just leave afterwards.

Here’s where I divest from the party line.

Your defense is your problem. It’s not the police. It’s not the bad guy. It’s you.

If you’re attacked by two men in the dead of night, do you want to be the guy with the gun that fights back or do you want to be the guy in the hospital? That’s the choice.

This weird idea that somehow bad guys don’t hurt people if they don’t fight back is both dangerous and perpetrated by people who refuse to take responsibility for their own lives.

How did Deonte Thomas decide it was a good idea to ambush a dude at 10:30 p.m. at night in a secluded section of the city?

He was sitting home, doing his physics homework, contemplating life on other planets and decided, “gee, I bet if my buddy and I go jump some dude, everything will work out just fine!”

Makes perfect sense, right? Astrophysicists usually start their career with violent felonies. It’s a very clear cut path between beating a man for his possessions in the dead of night and curing cancer.

Don’t take my word for it. If you run up against some guys that want your things or just want to beat you, you get to make that decision and no one else. This concealed carrier decided he wasn’t going to be a victim that night. That’s a deeply personal decision that I respect.

It only happens if you get that permit, get the gun, carry it everyday, and refuse to just sit down and take whatever some violent idiot wants to throw your way. It’s not cowardice to run from a fight but it is cowardice to lay there and get beaten or shot because you don’t want to take responsibility for your own life.

Stay safe. Do call the police. Do carry concealed everyday, everywhere. Don’t be a victim.

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