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postheadericon 10 Ways To Get Kicked Off The Range — If You’re Lucky

Everyone messes up at some time or another. Every gun owner will make a dumb mistake. The difference between a learning experience and a very big mistake is the ability to walk away with no one getting hurt.

While that sounds good in principle, range safety officers aren’t into putting up with anyone’s mistakes.

There’s a firing line. And the range safety officers monitor it closely to ensure no one is doing anything that could jeopardize themselves, other shooters, or the RSOs.

Everyone on the firing line is responsible for safety. If you see an unsafe practice, you need to bring it up to an RSO. If someone sees you doing something unsafe, he needs to bring it up to the RSO.

The RSO makes a determination, gives a recommendation, documents the incident, and ensures that the decision is complied with. If the RSO’s advice isn’t heeded, he has the authority to boot someone off the range.

Here’s 10 ways to get kicked off the range.

#10. Shoot at wildlife that wanders onto the range.

Animals can and have wandered onto live ranges. Just because they made a dumb mistake doesn’t mean you need to take advantage of it. There are conservation rules, state laws, endangered species watchlists, and all sorts of rules governing who can shoot what animal, where, and when.

If someone sees a deer randomly wander across the firing line and decides he’s going to take it out, he’ll likely be getting escorted off the range by the range safety officers. Depending upon the animal, the season, and the temperament of the wildlife conservation officers or Fish & Game Wardens, he may get out of the range with only a permanent ban.

If you see wildlife wander onto the range, you need to call it out and let the RSO know. On some ranges, that may mean hitting a range alarm or just simply letting an RSO know as soon as possible. Call it in. Save a life.

#9. Argue or brawl with other shooters.

If the guy next to you is a complete jerk, move over a lane or two. If the guy is a jerk and a danger to others — either by intimidating he’ll use physical violence or threatening another person — immediately get an RSO. He’ll be off that range faster than an empty case can hit the ground.

There is no room for macho bravado on the range. Save the displays of uncommon courage for the American Legion parade. When it comes to professionalism and safety, the range has to hold high standards for both.

#8. Failure to follow any of the four basic firearm safety rules.

Here they are so no one can claim ignorance:

  1. Treat every gun as if it is loaded.
  2. Don’t point a gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
  3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you intend to fire.
  4. Know what’s in front and directly behind your target.

Pretty easy, right? Well, the second an RSO sees you holding your finger on the trigger during times it’s evident you don’t intend to shoot, he’ll talk to you. If he sees it again, he’ll ask you to leave.

The four firearm safety rules are no joke. Disregard them at your own peril. Disregard them on the range and expect to get booted.

#7. Steal stuff from another guy’s bench

Reach over and snag somebody else’s cleaning brush? That’s a paddlin’.

It’s no big deal to ask someone to borrow a brush or some CLP. It is a big deal to take it without asking. Range safety officers and other range patreons all have the right to not have their stuff taken without permission. Doing so can land you in hot water.

The phrase, “it’s better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission” — doesn’t apply on the range.

#6. Go forward on the firing line while the line is ‘hot’.

When the RSO makes the determination that everyone is behind the firing line, he will declare the range ‘hot’ unless something specific causes him to stop. Seeing a person in front of the firing line is a reason for him to tell shooters to hold fire.

If a shooter decides he needs to go forward of the line while other shooters are firing, he needs to let an RSO know. If it’s an emergency, there is usually an alarm or bell that can be activated to shut down the range.

Deciding, on one’s own volition, to just spontaneously move forward on the line while shooters are firing is both dangerous and extremely stupid. An RSO will immediately shut down the range if another shooter doesn’t do it first… And then that person who moved forward of the line will be asked to leave.

#5. Have a loaded gun in your hand while there’s someone forward of the firing line.

Right alongside declaring a range ‘not hot’ (not safe for firing), the RSO will usually request everyone put down their guns. This is a precaution to ensure that if the RSO sees someone with a gun in his hand, he knows he’s not supposed to have it.

In some cases, if an RSO has repeatedly asked you to not have your gun in your hand while there are people forward of the firing line, he may ask you to leave.

#4. Take your sweet time forward of the firing line when the RSO tells you to hurry up.

As annoying as it is when others don’t respect your time, it’s equally as annoying when you don’t respect theirs. When the firing line is shut down so people can move forward to retrieve, mark, or replace their targets, this isn’t the time to dilly-dally. Move forward with a purpose. Make a single trip out to the line, do what you need to do, and move back to the line.

If you see a guy constantly holding up the line by not getting his tasks down, the RSO will probably try to move him along. If the shooter continues to be a nuisance and hold up the line, the RSO may ask him to come back to the range at a different time when it’s either less busy or the crowd is less anxious to continue their training.

#3. Shoot before the RSO declares the firing line to be ‘hot’.

If there’s someone out in front of the firing line retrieving a target or taking his sweet time marking his target, that’s the RSO’s problem — not yours. At no point in time is it okay to commence firing until the range safety officer declares the line is ‘hot’; i.e. it is safe to shoot.

Failing to adhere to this can result in immediate dismissal from the range — potentially on a permanent basis.

#2. Tell the range safety officer to get stuffed after he tells you to do something.

The range safety officer is someone appointed by range management to oversee the conduct of the people using the range and ensure that safe practices are being upheld. While there are RSOs who let their role go to their head, ultimately the time to debate their logic is not on the range.

The range is their domain.

If you disagree with a decision or stern suggestion, you can ask to speak with them off the range or speak to their management.

In about 9.9/10 cases, range management is probably going to back the RSO… So you better bring your case packed with evidence that you’re right, the RSO is wrong, and he made a bad call.

If you decide to make a scene about an RSO decision, you’re likely to get booted from the range.

#1. Point your gun at another person.

This is probably the fastest way to get booted off the range. If a range safety officer sees you blatantly flag another person with a gun — loaded or not — you’re subject to get tossed off the line.

Here’s the thing: people can and have flagged other range-goers. It’s wrong. It shouldn’t be tolerated — and it should always be addressed either directly or indirectly. We wrote a decent article detailing how to handle getting flagged it if the situation comes up.

OPTIONAL BONUS: Don’t pick up your brass.

While some ranges will pay somebody to pick up all the brass, there are plenty club or private ranges that require you to pick up your own brass. It’s not like a shooter’s mom wanders behind him, picking up every brass off the ground. Not only is it the right thing to do, you’re also keeping the range clear for the next guy.

If you practice on a range that doesn’t care, disregard. However, if you practice on a range where the rules specifically state you need to police your own brass and you don’t, you may just be in for a rude awakening next time the RSO catches you sneaking off with spent brass laying about.

Hopefully, this article served as a bit of an educational reminder that there’s plenty of ways to do dumb things and win dumb prizes at the range. Don’t do any of them. Your time is better spent practicing safely. If you see an unsafe practice, let the RSO know. And, as always, carry concealed everyday, everywhere — and practice often.

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postheadericon Ignoring software updates? You’re making one of five basic security mistakes

Cybersecurity is now a worldwide problem. But far too many citizens, businesses and governments are still making the same old, basic errors.

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postheadericon Drop Your Ego, because you’re Discouraging Beginners from Asking Questions

The absolute worst part about this job isn’t the anti-gunner death threats, and it’s not the part where we report on accidental (negligent) discharges. The absolute worst part about this job is seeing comments from people who believe themselves to be smarter and better than everyone else.

Normally, this wouldn’t bother me. Let those punks say what they want, because chances are that people aren’t listening anyway. But when those people begin to target those new to firearms and concealed carry, that’s where I get annoyed.

Remember the saying ‘No question is stupid’? That’s especially true when dealing with the topics that we deal with. NO question is stupid, and not a single one of us knows everything.

Let’s look at a recent example:

We post: Carrying a firearm while using a public bathroom; What should you do with it?

Mr. Knowitall comments: If you don’t know what to do, you shouldn’t be carrying.

Thanks, Sir, for your valuable contribution to the conversation.

Not only to these keyboard warriors think that they’re above everyone else, it’s a serious discouragement for beginners to answer beginner questions. Sometimes, folks forget that others are just starting out and in the beginning, we all have legitimate questions with legitimate answers.

On a daily basis, we receive messages and emails from beginners, and they ask us questions that many label as ‘stupid’ or ‘if you don’t know this, don’t carry’. That’s a bad approach to take, and instead we should be supportive of each other and the questions that are on our minds.

In closing, no question is stupid… especially at Concealed Nation. We’re here to help those looking for answers and are happy to answer any questions that we can. It’s the way we learn, and you can never ask too many questions or be too prepared. For those who choose the opposite approach described in the example above, I ask that you reconsider. If you choose to comment, make it a comment that allows for a teaching moment, and not a comment that could stop someone from asking a legitimate question.

We’re all in this together. The more people who learn, the more people carrying firearms in the safest ways possible.

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postheadericon “I Don’t Think You’re Going To Get That Money Today”: Salon Employee Pulls Gun On Would-Be Robber

DAYTON, OHIO — One salon owner wasn’t willing to give up her hard earned money without a fight. That’s the story coming out of Dayton after an attempted robbery was stopped by one woman with a gun. Dayton police are alleging that the robber in question may have been responsible for a string of other robberies in the nearby area. However, his string of crime definitely got stopped cold in its tracks.

According to NBC 4 (WCMH), the suspect entered the salon and pretended to want to purchase a ring. When one of the store owners went to ring him up, he demanded all her money.

“As soon as [my girlfriend] opened the drawer he said, ‘I don’t want any trouble, just give me all the money,’” Hoblit said. “At that point my girlfriend’s instincts kicked in and we had a pistol underneath and she grabbed the pistol, pointed it right at his face and said, ‘I don’t think you’re going to get that money today.’”

It’s a situation that small business owners are faced with all too regularly: your money or your well being. Both are valuable. But for many business owners, they can’t afford to lose their money every single time some thug decides to knock them off. That’s why they’re increasingly relying upon their own method of protection: arming up.

“She was really upset,” Hoblit said. “But she’s not going to give up our money. This is our season. We’re a small family business. This is what we live off of and she’s not going to give that up.”

The robber managed to get away but between several other corroborating reports from other previously hit establishments, a general description of the man and the vehicle he used to escape in has been released. Dayton police are hot on his trail. In the meantime, staying responsibly armed and carrying every day — especially into your own business — is essential.

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postheadericon Nearly 20% Of The Country Is Now Permitless Carry, But Make Sure You’re Still Training

With Idaho passing permitless concealed carry recently, they became the 9th state in the Country to allow this. That’s a lot of people under the no-permit carry umbrella. But what about training? Should they still do it / seek it?

In reality, many states with permit requirements do not have any requirements for training. Some simply have you sit in a 4 or 8 hour class to receive your permit (after submitting your application and passing a background check as well, of course), but they do not have any requirement to show proficiency with firearms.

That’s where the individual comes into play. And IMHO, training is something that every concealed carrier should be serious about.

While I don’t feel it should be a requirement, I see it as a personal responsibility –as a responsible gun owner– to make sure that we’re proficient with our firearms. It’s common sense. If you make the decision to carry, you should damn well be able to hit a target with a high rate of success.

Not only target proficiency, but what about drawing from concealment and shooting under stress? There are courses and classes all over the country that teach just that, and most of them are worth the money and time to check out. Plus, you enjoy shooting, right? Then it should be fun anyway!

If you aren’t seeking out professional training, routine trips to the range should be on your todo list at the very least. Shooting is a perishable skill, and we will only get better and more proficient the more we practice.

What about you? Do you train on a regular basis? Let us know in the comments section below.

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postheadericon Superbowl Sunday: If You’re Going To A Party Hosted By A Person Not Wanting Concealed Carry, You’re Legally Obligated To Respect Their Wishes

As the Super Bowl festivities kick off, so will the gatherings of fans at various locations. Many of us will be visiting friends and family, and be in homes other than our own. A seemingly little-known federal law could possibly … Continue reading
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postheadericon Got an Android? I hope you’re patching it

Chances are that many people will have been treated to an Android smartphone over the holiday period, and are already finding that it needs an update to make it work more safely.

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postheadericon 5 Systems Admin relationship tips (so you’re on talking terms again)

Want to mend your systems admin relationship? On this Systems Administration appreciation day, we give you a few tips to help mend fences.

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postheadericon SITUATION SUNDAY #003: You’re Out In The Middle Of Nowhere And Use Your Firearm In Self Defense And You Can’t Call Police. What Do You Do?

Ahh, Reddit. People post some interesting questions over in the /CCW subreddit and from time to time, we like to share them with you to get the conversation going. Here’s this week’s scenario that will likely never happen, but it’s … Continue reading
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postheadericon Too Stupid To Carry: How To Know When You’re A Bad Candidate For A Concealed Carry Permit

Sometimes, certain people just aren’t cut out to carry a firearm — let alone own one. It takes a certain type of person to own and carry, and it’s a responsibility that every single potential gun owner needs to consider. … Continue reading
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